Michael Jordan and LeBron James are the best basketball players ever, but which one is truly is the greatest of all time? Here’s why I think Jordan is better:

To start, Jordan has more awards than Lebron. Jordan is a 6x NBA champ going 6-0 in each series, while Lebron is a staggering 4-6, only winning 4 rings. Jordan also has won more MVP awards with 5 to James’s 4. Jordan has also won a defensive player of the year award which, up to this point, LeBron has not, doing this against tougher opposing competition no less. Jordan would line up across iconic names like Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, James Worthy, John Stockton, Charles Barkley, and Karl Malone, who are all Hall of Famers, and Jordan did this with only one maybe two “superstar” supporting cast members in Scottie Pippen and Dennis Rodman and all with one team in the Chicago Bulls. It seems like Lebron has played with more superstars than against. Some of LeBron’s supporting cast members include Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Chris Bosh, Dwayne Wade, Anthony Davis, and Mo Williams, all with a span of three teams.

Now, some may argue that LeBron’s scoring numbers are better and more efficient than Jordan. While this is true, the NBA defensive stats have arguably gotten worse over the years, so it’s safe to assume that LeBron’s scoring comes easier against lesser defense.

Lastly, when it comes down to the nitty gritty, Jordan delivers better and is tougher than James. Jordan hit on eight of his first 16 clutch attempts in the playoffs. That gives him a 50 percent ratio to LeBron’s 43.8. Jordan also played with food poisoning once and a whole game with shoes that were too small, giving him bloody feet. LeBron would supposedly pull his groin or sprain his ankle (then walk to the locker room and return) just to sit out weeks or months.

And those are some of the reasons I believe Jordan is better than Lebron.